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SHOCKING elder's talk: "..when we are baptized we abdicate all responsibility to think for ourselves.."
by yadda yadda 2 ini found this recorded elder's talk (presumably genuine) quite disturbing in how he states that in order to maintain unity, jw's have given up thinking for themselves and passed over their thinking ability to the governing body.. "when you're baptized, your thinking is not your own anymore...your thinking is done for you...we carry out to the letter everything the society tells us to do..." .
his concluding statement "stop thinking for yourselves!".
there's the usual reference to the korah and those who challenged moses, but "you in the congregation are safe as long as you don't speak out against the elders and jehovah's organisation...".
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Why the Watchtower Society is wicked...fantastic youtube clip
by yadda yadda 2 inbest clip i've ever seen on why it's no exaggeration to say the organisation is morally wicked.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4v8elawms60.
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JW's just called at my door, simply handed me the JW.ORG tract and left! JW's now mere leaflet distributors.
by yadda yadda 2 ini'm off work today and its a monday morning.
a male and female jw just knocked on my door, i opened it, the guy just handed me their latest website promoting tract saying "hi, were just leaving these with people today", and then he made to leave.
i looked at the tract and then looked at him as he was turning to walk away and said to him "ok, thanks, but ummm you could've just left it in my letterbox.".
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2 Cor 11:4 PROVES there were various versions of Jesus and gospels BEFORE the gospels
by yadda yadda 2 inthe gospels were written after paul's epistles.
this is commonly acknowledged by both apologist and neutural bible scholars.
yet we see that paul says clearly in 2 corinthians 11:4 that persons were preaching different versions of jesus and different gospels before the orthodox canonized gospels were written:.
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'Search' function doesn't show thread dates in results
by yadda yadda 2 insimon, if you use the search function for a topic or word, you cannot separate out the latest threads on a particular subject from the oldest.. if i wanted to read the latest threads and discussion on the subject of, say, 'generation' i get a huge list of threads with that word in the heading or contents but i cannot tell how old each thread is unless i actually open up the thread.
i don't want to be reading threads that are 5 or 10 years old on a subject like that.. can the date of the threads be shown in search results please.
also, can a function be added to order results chronologically, from newest to oldest.
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"Signs of the Times" Magazine published since 1874 - better than Watchtower and Awake!
by yadda yadda 2 inhave you ever seen the 'signs of the times' magazine published by the seventh day adventists?
i saw one at my local take-out recently for the first time and had a quick flick through.
i thought it was rather better the awake and/or watchtower!
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John 9 - disfellowshipped apostates reviled like the Pharisees reviled and cast out healed blind man
by yadda yadda 2 ini've always admired the mocking honesty and courage of the blind man who was healed by jesus when he was summoned by the pharisees.
he was thrown out of the synagogue for daring to tell the truth to the blind and arrogant pharisees.. the blind man's parents were afraid to say the truth out of fear of being cast out and ostracised by their religious community.
how strikingly similar is the situation today for many ex-jw's who have boldly spoken the truth about the watchtower's falsehoods and harm, and who were as a result reviled by being branded mentally diseased apostates, etc, and cruelly cast out of their jw community and shunned, sometimes even by their loved one.. i raise a toast to such ones for their bravery and love of truth.. john 9:8-34 8 therefore the neighbors and those who previously had seen that he was blind said,is not this he who sat and begged?
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Is it wrong to mock and ridicule the Watchtower Society?
by yadda yadda 2 inrobert j ingersoll on the great voltaire:.
"it has been claimed by the christian critics that voltaire was irreverent; that he examined sacred things without solemnity; that he refused to remove his shoes in the presence of the burning bush; that he smiled at the geology of moses, the astronomical ideas of joshua, and that the biography of jonah filled him with laughter.
they say that these stories, these sacred impossibilities, these inspired falsehoods, should be read and studied with a believing mind in humbleness of spirit; that they should be examined prayerfully, asking god at the same time to give us strength to triumph over the conclusions of our reason.
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International non-intervention in Syrian conflict and God's non-intervention
by yadda yadda 2 inthrowing this out there for discussion:.
why do atheists curse god for not intervening in humankind's affairs to prevent or mitigate suffering and evil, yet the world stands by and basically lets syria get torn apart year by year with thousands of innocent adults and children dying, and millions having to flee their country, without the world intervening to end that terrible suffering?
a whole generation of syrian children have been brutalised or traumatised by this never ending conflict.. the world, united states, russia, china, etc, say there is no moral right for any exernal nation to intervene in this internal syrian political conflict/war citing that it is right of each sovereign nation to self-determine it's own affairs.
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Jehovah's Witness girl saved in Pretoria after Court intervention
by yadda yadda 2 inhttp://www.iol.co.za/news/south-africa/kwazulu-natal/jehovah-s-witness-girl-saved-by-court-1.1700022#.u5qusnkszng.